Nicolas Cage for “Ghost Rider”

It would be fair to say that Nicolas Cage, Oscar winner, movie star, father, has always been obsessed with a comic book character, one Ghost Rider. He has a Ghost Rider tattoo on his person, and while many of us were doting after Batman and Superman, it was this demonic skeletal figure that has been lurking in the back of Cage’s imagination since childhood.

As we appropriately chat in the dark recesses of a Hollywood cemetery no less, the usually publicity shy actor concedes that this lifelong obsession – now finally put to bed as star of this month’s big screen interpretation of the character – has to do with its originality. “This is not standard superhero fare, which follows any of those traditional rules,” Cage explains. “As a boy I was really attracted to the monsters that were in the Marvel universal, such as the Hulk and Ghost Rider, because I couldn’t understand how something so terrifying could also be good, so it appealed to whatever complexities I was feeling about life, and that paradox to me is inherently interesting.”

Ghost Rider revolves around motorcycle stunt performer, Johnny Blaze (Cage), who agrees to become the host of a “spirit of vengeance” in exchange for the safety of his true love, but the price he pays is to be cursed with the avenging spirit that takes its form at night as a demon with a flaming skull on a motorcycle of hellfire.

Hardly your typical comic book character, Cage recalls being about seven or eight when he first embarked upon the demonic adventures of the character. “I would just sit in my room and stare at the covers,” he recalls, enjoying the way Ghost Rider and The Hulk looked. “But there’s something about the iconography of the flaming skull itself, even going beyond Ghost Rider that has been around for thousands of years, something about the flaming skull that depicts honesty. It’s like there’s no mask, you can’t hide, and there it is, the truth, and I like that. If you’re speaking about my tattoo, I would say it’s more akin to that than necessarily the Ghost Rider itself.”

Now Cage, 43, has fulfilled a lifelong dream by bringing the character to the big screen, and says that he was destined to play the character. “I think I willed it into happening, because here we are and we’re talking about it. I think I was always excited by the idea of the comic books going to film, and I knew that when the technology was at a level where it would be visually palatable to the audiences, it would make great entertainment. I had no doubt that Batman was going to be enormous, as well as Superman and Spider-Man, because it’s entertainment that is wholesome, full of excitement and action with not a huge body count or gunfire. Ghost Rider is different in that he’s really the only character that I know of that is in the supernatural arena, and who walks through both worlds. So I thought it was time for a character like this, rather than me playing Superman, which at one time was talked about, but this is more appropriate for me because I like the enigmatic and paradoxical quality of it.”

While the original comic books are tonally dark, for the film version, it was important for the actor to imbue the character with humour. “One of my favourite movies is American Werewolf in London, and one of my favourite tonalities is horror and comedy. If you can get those two together, it’s a great buzz, and I wanted to see if we could get that, or aspire to some sense of that. The character is absurd, it’s an absurd situation, you can’t take it too seriously, you’ve got to have fun with it, and that’s why I really wanted to make sure that we were playful. So I took the chain-smoking and hard drinking out and said, ‘Wait a minute, he’s trying to avoid the Devil’, so instead listens to Karen Carpenter and eats jellybeans, which is fun.”

And Cage had equal amounts of fun, writhing on the ground ‘turning’ into Ghost Rider, reacting to the special effects that would come later. Rather than thinking the whole exercise was silly, Cage says he felt great. “I loved it and was so excited to do it, I felt like I was a kid again and I wanted to get that spirit of a B monster movie with Vincent Price. I was going for it, as if there’s bugs on my face, I’m screaming ahhhh, and then I would look at playback on the monitor with Mark Steven Johnson and I’d be like, ‘Yes, monster movie, monster movie,’ because that’s what I want to make, a movie that eight year olds and thirteen year olds can get excited about, like the way they used to about Vincent Price and The Fly in the fifties.”

Some 50 films after Cage began his career, the Oscar winner says that doing Ghost Rider finally reminded him of why he became an actor. “It’s the fun of being the child, wanting to bring out that abandon back to a character which is very liberating, because doing World Trade Center you’re really in a box, whereas in this case I could be more external and have more fun.”

Cage says it remains important for him not to play any one type of character, and World Trade Center and Ghost Rider continue to define him as an actor. “I’m always trying to stay interested in the work, and that means I don’t want to get stuck in one style. I want to be natural yet abstract, operatic and I also want to be a ballad. I don’t want to do just do one kind of character or one style of acting.”

Asked what challenges lay ahead for him at this point in a successful career, Cage pauses slightly. “I have to stay interested and if I’m not interested enough I shouldn’t do it. I don’t know how much longer I am going to do it, so I want to keep trying to find new ways of expressing myself and this is one of them. I’ve not done a comic book movie before and so that’s fun, and I think kids are going to love it. I want all ages to go but I really have a soft spot in my heart for the kids that go see it with their families, and I haven’t done that before, but I have to just keep finding things that appeal to me.” He says that includes more directing, but not necessarily another Ghost Rider. “I feel like I really laid it down on this one, so a sequel would really be script dependent.”

Cage says he is not for anything just yet, but his next film, Next, is being released in late April. “: Next is based on a Phillip K. Dick short story about a man who has the prescience ability to see two minutes within his own future, who he keeps seeing this girl, played by Jessica Biel, and he doesn’t know why he keeps seeing her so he’s got to find out. When he does he realizes he can actually see further ahead when she’s there and the powers that be, like the FBI, really want this person to help them find out where a nuclear bomb has been placed and they’re running out of time. It’s cool, romantic too and Jessica Biel is great in it.”

The actor is also committed to a National Treasure sequel. “It’s still being developed and still being talked about, but everything I’ve seen so far is really exciting. The history of it is interesting to me, the historical elements dealing with Confederate gold, Abraham Lincoln and the assassination is interesting. Potentially it could be even more exciting than the first one – and that’s the key to sequels. You only do it if it can be as good as or better than the first.” As for his break, Cage says he has his hands full being a dad, “and I have plenty of books to read.”